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4. Hardware·What end-user devices work with Qwest ADSL? ·What VPI/VCI does Qwest use if I want to setup my own Modem? ·How to port forward with Qwest MSN Arescom DSL modem/router ·What are good or bad numbers from the WAN status page? ·Why Does My DSL Drop When My Phone Rings? ·Which "mode" or modulation standard should I use?
| | | Qwest Supported Devices Non-Supported Devices (Items in bold are tested or used by members with Qwest DSL.) • 2Wire 1701 (4 ethernet/USB) . . . Submitted by: questionable  . . . Tested by: questionable  . . . Used by: questionable  • 2Wire 1800HG (4 ethernet/USB/HPNA) . . . Submitted by: Suffering  . . . Tested by: Suffering  . . . Used by: Suffering • 2Wire 2701 & 2700 (4 ethernet/USB) . . . Submitted by: questionable  . . . Tested by: questionable  . . . Used by: questionable  • Actiontec ED800T (ethernet/USB) . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Actiontec R4500U (ethernet/USB) . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Arescom NetDSL 800 (ND860VUE-MSN) (USB & ethernet, out of production?) . . . Submitted by: CrystalOnion  . . . Tested by: CrystalOnion  . . . Used by: CrystalOnion  • Arescom NetDSL 800NDS (Bridge only, ethernet/USB) . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Arescom NetDSL 1000 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: SpinControl1  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: rainingturds  • Arescom NetDSL 1060 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: str8jacket  . . . Tested by: str8jacket  . . . Used by: ? • Arescom NetDSL 1260 (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: str8jacket  . . . Tested by: str8jacket  . . . Used by: ? • Cabletron SSR250 (ethernet, out of production) . . . Submitted by: adsldude  . . . Tested by: adsldude  . . . Used by: ? • Cabletron SSR255 (4 ethernet, out of production) . . . Submitted by: adsldude  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: adsldude  • Cayman 3220-H (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Cayman 3546 (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: bkleven  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: bkleven  • Cisco 1417 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: adamaluy  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: adamaluy  • Cisco 677 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: vagabond  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: vagabond  • Cisco 827H . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: marked23  • Cisco 837 . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Creative brightport 8012u . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Creative Modem Blaster dsl 742 . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • D-Link DSL-504T (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: mystery194  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: mystery194  • D-Link DSL-2320B (1 ethernet, 1 USB 1.1) . . . Submitted by: Mason . . . Tested by: Mason . . . Used by: Mason • Efficient Networks 5660 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: SoilFlames  . . . Tested by: SoilFlames  . . . Used by: SoilFlames  • Efficient Networks 5861 (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: adsldude  . . . Tested by: adsldude  . . . Used by: adsldude  • Efficient Networks 5930 (8 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: adsldude  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: adsldude  • Netgear DG814 (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: siczora  . . . Tested by: siczora  . . . Used by: siczora  • Netgear DG834 (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: holocron  . . . Tested by: holocron  . . . Used by: holocron  • Netgear DGN2000 (4 ethernet, wireless) . . . Submitted by: Vin DSL  . . . Tested by: Vin DSL  . . . Used by: Vin DSL  • Netopia 3341-ELK . . . Submitted by: wuggabugga  . . . Tested by: wuggabugga  . . . Used by: wuggabugga  • Netopia 3346-ENT . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: JPCass  . . . Used by: JPCass  • Netopia 45413 . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Paradyne 6381 (1 USB) . . . Submitted by: bufferoverru  . . . Tested by: bufferoverru  . . . Used by: bufferoverru  • Siemens SpeedStream 4100 (1 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: hardly  . . . Tested by: hardly  . . . Used by: hardly  • Siemens SpeedStream 5200 (1 ethernet, 1 USB) . . . Submitted by: bufferoverru  . . . Tested by: bufferoverru  . . . Used by: bufferoverru  • Siemens 5830 (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: adsldude  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Speedtouch 530 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: marcw  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: marcw  • TRENDnet TW100-BRM504 (4 port Ethernet) . . . Submitted by: RevMortis  . . . Tested by: RevMortis  . . . Used by: RevMortis (sometimes) • USRobotics USR9002 SureConnect (1 ethernet, 1 USB) . . . Submitted by: caffeinator  . . . Tested by: caffeinator  . . . Used by: caffeinator  • Westell 2200 (1 ethernet, 1 USB) . . . Submitted by: mrphil  . . . Tested by: mrphil  . . . Used by: mrphil  • Westell 6100 (1 ethernet, 1 USB) . . . Submitted by: mrphil  . . . Tested by: mrphil  . . . Used by: mrphil  • Westell Wirespeed . . . Submitted by: ? . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Zoom X3 Mdl 5560 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: kingofdsl  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Zoom X3 Mdl 5660 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: UHF  . . . Tested by: UHF  . . . Used by: UHF  • Zoom X4 Mdl 5551 (USB) . . . Submitted by: kingofdsl  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: ? • Zoom X5 Mdl 5554 (4 ethernet) . . . Submitted by: kingofdsl  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: bberg1 Lochinver bent  • Zoom X5 Mdl 5654 (ethernet/USB) . . . Submitted by: mdrift (see »Re: Cheapest qwest modem I can buy?) . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: mdrift  • ZyXEL 642R (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: bigjoesmith  . . . Tested by: bigjoesmith  . . . Used by: NoEcm  • ZyXEL 643 (ethernet) . . . Submitted by: jhboricua  . . . Tested by: ? . . . Used by: jhboricua 
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by adsldude edited by AthlGrond  last modified: 2009-03-18 17:14:05 | | | The Quest VC (Virtual Circuit) uses a VPI of 0 and a VCI of 32. Seen written as VPI/VCI as in 0/32.
Enjoy!
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by Doctor Olds edited by AthlGrond  last modified: 2008-11-14 12:13:38 | | | When you sign up for Qwest/MSN DSL then you may receive an Arescom DSL modem/router. Unfortunately this Arescom DSL modem/router is supplied by MSN with NAT turned on and no way to turn it off, no way to set up port forwarding, DMZ, etc. It's a black box with no user configuration possible.
The problem with this is that you can't set up any kind of server. Peer to peer software such as Bit Tornado will always say that you are firewalled.
This can be especially confusing if you use a NAT router between the Arescom and your PCs, for example if you set up a LAN in your house. I fought the LAN router for hours, trying to figure out what was wrong, when the problem was not with the LAN router at all, but was with the modem/router.
So, how to configure the Arescom DSL modem/router when it can't be done? Answer: Hack into the thing and set it up the way that you want to. Details on the hack are here: »MSN Forum FAQ »How do I change the firewall settings, or any other advanced config. settings?
These modems are well out of their warranty date so hack away (keep in mind you might fry it).
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by CrystalOnion edited by AthlGrond  last modified: 2006-01-03 12:19:37 | | | As seen in this post by dynodb : »Intermittent Disconnects and Lag, Qwest DSL
These are the stats I'd mainly look at:
Speed (down/up): 1536 / 736 Kbps Near End CRC Errors (I/F): 2/0 Far End CRC Errors (I/F): 2/0 Near End RS FEC (I/F): 1224/0 Far End RS FEC (I/F): 2499775/0 SNR Margin (Downstream/Upstream): 6/6 Attenuation (Downstream/Upstream): 63/63
The speed tells you what you're trained at. That he's trained at under the maximum rate of 896 or 1024k says that the modem and DSLAM couldn't connect at a higher rate without the SNR dropping below 6dB.
Errors- near end are those recieved at the modem, far end are those reported by the DSLAM. CRC's are uncorrectable errors, FEC errors are those corrected through interleaving. You'll always see at least a couple of errors, but if they increment heavily, it's likely going to be a problem.
SNR margin- Signal to Noise Ratio margin. This is the SNR above the minimum SNR needed to sustain a certain speed. If it takes 20dB to connect at a given speed, and the actual SNR is 26dB, you will have an SNR margin of 6dB.
6dB is the minimum SNR margin that Qwest DSLAMs are configured to train at. 6dB is marginal but not necessarily a deal-killer. Plenty of people are trained at 6dB with nothing more than some errors that don't cause noticable problems. For others, they will have problems at 6dB. The guideline I'd go by:
6-7dB Marginal. Likely to have errors to some degree, may be an indication of a line problem (house wiring or Qwest cable), but might just mean the signal is weak due to distance from the DSLAM.
8-9dB: OK. You'll probably get some occasional errors, but unless there's a problem of some sort, you should have a pretty stable connection... but if your SNR margin drops much further, you might have problems.
10-12dB: Good. Aside from a few errors here and there, you should have a very stable connection.
13dB and up: Very good. Contrary to the prevailing "more SNR = better" attitude around here, there's really little or no advantage to having an SNR of 30dB compared to 13dB for a given speed unless "bragging rights" counts.
Attenuation- In basic terms, it represents the amount of signal resistance on your line between the modem and DSLAM. The higher the attenuation is, the lower the SNR margin will typically be. Longer/thinner cable is the most common reason for increased attenuation, with line trouble a distant second. Once you get into the high 50's or low 60's, you're approaching the limit.
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by AthlGrond  last modified: 2006-01-03 12:19:50 | | | As seen in this post by christcorp : »Re: Intermittent Disconnects and Lag, Qwest DSL
If your dsl drops every time the phone rings, there are usually 2 things that cause this.
1) a bad filter in your house. If a filter is bad or missing it can cause the dsl to drop either when the phone rings or if someone picks up the phone with the bad filter.
2) The other reason could be on Qwest's side. It's called a POTS splitter. You have one of these if you have BOTH phone and DSL. It's what sort of combines the 2 together. There are a number of problems that can occur with a bad pots splitter. i.e. DSL works - phone totally dead, Phone works-dsl - totally dead, disconnects, etc...
I suggest that you hook up the dsl modem by itself. DISCONNECT ALL PHONES IN THE HOUSE. Do NOT have anything connected at all except the dsl modem. No filters, phones, directv, digital cable, or anything else in a phone jack. Then when you are up and surfing, take your cell phone and call your house. Technically it should just ring and ring. Unless you have voice mail in which case it will go to voice mail after so many rings. Anyway, see if when the line is ringing in your cell phone if it is dropping you off. If it DOESN'T, then it's probably one of the filters, jacks, or wiring. If it still disconnects, it's probably the POTS splitter with Qwest.
There is a slim chance that it's the modem so if you have a friend with DSL you can borrow their modem and try surfing while calling in also.
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by AthlGrond  last modified: 2006-01-03 12:20:02 | | | As seen in a post from msj in this thread: »difference between modes
what's the diff between, Multimode, T1.413, G.DMT, and G.Lite? And which one should I use?
Multimode basically says that you are OK with any of T1.413, G.DMT or G.Lite, so the DSLAM can choose whatever it prefers. If you choose one of the others then the DSLAM will refuse the connection if it doesn't support that mode.
T1.413 and G.DMT are very similar, and support up to the full ADSL speeds of 8M/1M. G.Lite tops out around 4M, at least with my experimentation. So, yes G.Lite shouldn't be used if your DSLAM supports the other protocols. I'd stick with Multimode, since the DSLAM should be configured to use the best mode that it is able to use.
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