billy2
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Staten Island, NY | [TWC] ABC HD looks bad for NBA Playoffs
ABC HD looks bad for NBA Playoffs, looks like SD Normal 16 x 9 |
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hobgoblin
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billy2
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Staten Island, NY | I used both HDMI and Component , HDMI was a bit better, but still blurry. I have the HDMI name as Rocketfish from Best Buy , which is supposed to be real good, it was when I bought it, now its looking like degrading, what is a good HDMI name ? |
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billy2
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Staten Island, NY | maybe ABC and ESPN should upgrade to 1080I , I think its time to rid the 720 P |
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sevenlincoln
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| said by billy2  :maybe ABC and ESPN should upgrade to 1080I , I think its time to rid the 720 P sports should be in 720p not 1080i. bsides the issue is because WABC in new york gives too much of its bandwith to Live Well HD and it takes away from ABC HD. |
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np23
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united state
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said by billy2 :I used both HDMI and Component , HDMI was a bit better, but still blurry. I have the HDMI name as Rocketfish from Best Buy , which is supposed to be real good, it was when I bought it, now its looking like degrading, what is a good HDMI name ? Monster...lol jk.
Don't fall victim to being suckered into buying expensive HDMI cables. Visit the monoprice website. |
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billy2
join:2009-02-27
Staten Island, NY
| well they should get rid of the Live Well Channel then and I will guess Ill stick with my HDMI I got. Other HD is fine, its just that NBA Playoffs it was blur like I said. I sent emails both to Time Warner in Staten Island and ABC / ESPN about the HD content feeds, see what they say. |
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billy2
join:2009-02-27
Staten Island, NY
| according to the last legal notice of May 29 , they say Live Well HD might be gone as of June 30. I must say NBC HD can work on their HD feed as well , for Stanley Cup ,. or are they using the bandwitjh with the complete waste of NY Non Stop and NBC Universal Sports , Channels 161 and 162 |
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zQ
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Flushing, NY
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said by billy2 :ABC HD looks bad for NBA Playoffs, looks like SD Normal 16 x 9 Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. It really looks horrible. |
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billy2
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Staten Island, NY | good same here, glad to hear |
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billy2
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Staten Island, NY
| why is it said that Sports belongsin 720 HD and not 1080 ? Wouldnt 1080 be a better Picture and I thought the reason why ABC HD was what it was because its 720 . Is it also that its like a simulcast of ESPN on ABC, which causes bandwith, on ABC it uses ESPN Graphics and ABC , and commentatrs uses ESPN Mics. which makes no sense, its on ABC, use ABC graphics, they are the same company owned by Disney , ESPN doesnt own ABC |
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hobgoblin
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| Here is the best answer I could cut and paste so I did not have to type it
To answer the question, it's important to understand the difference between 720p
vs 1080i. A 720p signal is made up of 720 horizontal lines. Each frame is displayed
in its entirety on-screen for 1/30th of a second. This is know as progressive scan
(hence the 'p')The quality is like watching 30 photographic images a second on TV.
A 1080i signal comprises 1080 horizontal lines but all the lines are not displayed
on-screen simultaneously. Instead, they are interlaced (hence the 'i'), ie every other
lines is displayed for 1/60th of a second and then the alternate lines are displayed
for 1/60th of a second. So, the frame rate is still 30 frames per second, but each
frame is split into two fields, which your brain then puts together subconsciously.
Most of the time interlacing works fine, but for fast moving images, such as sports
like baseball and hockey it can cause problems which manifest themselves as a
'stepping' effect on-screen. Progressive scan signals don't have this problem and so
are better suited to sports.
ESPN puts it like this: 'Progressive scan technology produces better images for the
fast moving orientation of sports television. Simply put, with 104 mph fastballs in
baseball and 120 mph shots on goal in hockey, the line-by-line basis of progressive
scan technology better captures the inherent fast action of sports. For ESPN,
progressive scan technology makes perfect sense.'
»ezinearticles.com/?720p-Vs-1080i···id=91443
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billy2
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Staten Island, NY | Thanks Hob |
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sevenlincoln
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said by billy2 :according to the last legal notice of May 29 , they say Live Well HD might be gone as of June 30. I must say NBC HD can work on their HD feed as well , for Stanley Cup ,. or are they using the bandwitjh with the complete waste of NY Non Stop and NBC Universal Sports , Channels 161 and 162 even if time warner drops live well, it will not improve picture quality for ABC HD because time warner can only pass thru what is received from ABC. ABC has 19.4 megabits for it's stream which includes about 10-11 for ABC, 7-8 for Live Well, 1-2 for weather. |
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erpster797
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Los Angeles, CA | reply to billy2
ABC HD looked fine when viewing KABC channel 7 in LA, CA for the NBA Finals games from TWC Socal. |
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| Is that kind of like the "home court advantage"? Since LA was in the playoffs could they have improved the signal? 
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billy2
join:2009-02-27
Staten Island, NY
| »www.broadcastingcable.com/articl···Play.php
this expains the degradable HD PQ on ABC during NBA Playoffs, I wasnt seeing things, but people on here guessed differently, on like how every other post I put on here. When someone finds out about the 3090 boxes on Staten Island, please let me know here. |
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hobgoblin
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billy2
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Staten Island, NY | that it is |
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NSA_CIA
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said by BroadCasting Cable.com article :
Perhaps the best example of the current HD squeeze is Live Well HD, a new high-definition, lifestyle-focused subchannel launched by the 10 ABC owned-and-operated stations in late April. ABC O&Os like WABC New York had already been transmitting two 480i standard-def subchannels—generally a local news channel and an AccuWeather channel—alongside their primary 720p HD stream, with no major impact to HD picture quality. But when ABC stations replaced the news channel with Live Well HD and began transmitting it as a second 720p HD program stream at the same time they were broadcasting National Basketball Association playoff games, the primary HD picture suffered significantly.
Viewer complaints flooded into stations as well as enthusiast Websites such as the AV Science Forum, where HD experts accused ABC of destroying its HD picture quality and derided both HD streams as looking no better than widescreen SD.
Since then, ABC engineers have tweaked the compression parameters on their Harris NetVX encoders, devoting more bits to the primary HD channel and reducing the bits that Live Well HD gets. A couple people told you exactly what the problem was early on, but you tend to ignore what people tell you and keep starting new topics asking very similar questions repeatedly. Keep the number of topics down, the clarity up, and you'll realize the answers you're given are often correct.
»Re: [TWC] ESPN HD better quality than ABC HD
said by NSA_CIA 2009-06-14 :
BC HD is a local broadcaster off-air ATSC feed which is mux'd with other SD and HD feeds of the broadcasters' choice, usually at least 2-3 other video streams. »Re: [TWC] ESPN HD better quality than ABC HD
said by disneyabc 2009-06-15 :
in the case of ABC, resolution will vary based on ABC station. ABC owned & operated stations (WABC in NYC,KNBC in LA, WLS Chicago, WPVI Philly) also cram in Live Well into their stream which greatly degrades ABC's picture. Thank the geniuses at Disney for this awful decision. |
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