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Munky1337

@trios.ca
Wholesale rural?

Can you guys sell the rural Broadband over powerlines?

Also if say your DSL over pots is terrible 1.5mbit... what's the chance of having a better profile
with the whole broadband over powerlines?


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
TekSavvy does not offer broadband over power lines. To my knowledge, that technology died before it ever saw any widespread deployments anyhow.

TekSavvy offers DSL service, and in limited areas in rural Ontario, fibre to the home.


kewlkeed
Grouch
Premium
join:2005-02-05
Knowlton, QC
reply to Munky1337
BPL never really got off the ground. Won't be seeing any sign of it around Canada. (As far as I know there were zero deployments of it in Canada)


munky1337

@trios.ca

On the contrary. I do believe bell offers it now and in a extreme large number of areas.

»www.bell.ca/shopping/internet.po···t_Access

Then click on "Check out the cities where Bell Internet Portable and Rural services are available"

LazMan

join:2003-03-26
Angus, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

said by munky1337 :

On the contrary. I do believe bell offers it now and in a extreme large number of areas.

»www.bell.ca/shopping/internet.po···t_Access

Then click on "Check out the cities where Bell Internet Portable and Rural services are available"
I believe this is 3G/Cellular/WiMax based, rather then BPL...

BPL has issues with transformers, noise, and RF interference - it was pretty much a niche product, and a non-starter for most commercial deployments.


kewlkeed
Grouch
Premium
join:2005-02-05
Knowlton, QC
reply to Munky1337
Yeah no that's not BPL. I can gar ron tee Bell has never messed with BPL. They're talking about their 3G/Cell/Wimax/HSPAwhatever stuff.

Martian3

join:2004-10-17
Lindsay, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to Munky1337
Bell's portable and rural internet are both WiMAX-based services. Portable just has an indoor WiMAX modem, while rural uses an outdoor directional antenna for those with a weaker signal.

WiMAX is being developed jointly by Rogers and Bell through Inukshuk. I know Xplornet is another WiMAX provider, but I don't know much about their service. Their reviews here on DSLR don't look good.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
reply to Munky1337
And the answer to the other question is that no, TekSavvy almost certainly will never offer Inukshuk access, since it's not regulated and Bell has no obligation to let TekSavvy get any access to that service.


GNca George
GorillaNET
Premium
join:2008-07-12
Minden, ON

reply to Martian3
said by Martian3 See Profile :

Bell's portable and rural internet are both WiMAX-based services. Portable just has an indoor WiMAX modem, while rural uses an outdoor directional antenna for those with a weaker signal.

WiMAX is being developed jointly by Rogers and Bell through Inukshuk. I know Xplornet is another WiMAX provider, but I don't know much about their service. Their reviews here on DSLR don't look good.
Innukshuk/Bell/Rogers isn't real WiMax, it was deployed before WiMax became a standard. WiMax-like is a better description.

Xplornet is Motorola Canopy wireless, non-WiMax. Most of their service in these parts is delivered on 900 Mhz and I haven't met a really happy Xplornet customer in a long time. I get at least a couple calls a week from unhappy Xplorenet users looking for better service. Some areas are better than others of course...

George
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
Not exactly surprising, does anybody remember how wonderfully effective 900MHz phones were? And those were billed as a big improvement when compared to the ones that came before them :P

munky99999
Munky

join:2004-04-10
canada
clubs:


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reply to Munky1337
Access the Internet anywhere there's a power outlet in 178 cities across Canada.

Power outlet?

I think imma just call up and ask.

I called and asked. Ya it's Wimax.

Crap Crap Double Crap.

Well that pretty much ends this thread

I guess I'll have to whine until they roll out adsl2.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
If you're on dialup, 1.5mbit is still a huge improvement...


mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
Keeping in mind, it's pre-WiMax and the 1.5 is not guaranteed at all. The price makes it worthless.


JimmyArms

join:2008-01-09
Sault Ste Marie, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to kewlkeed
said by kewlkeed See Profile :

BPL never really got off the ground. Won't be seeing any sign of it around Canada. (As far as I know there were zero deployments of it in Canada)
They had it in Sault Ste. Marie for a few years but it died out.
It was supposed to be as fast as 5MB but I never saw it over 3MB. It was cheaper and faster to go with cable or dsl.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
reply to mlerner
I was referring to the 1.5mbit DSL he was promised. Which at $30 isn't the worst deal in the world, and is still a big improvement over dialup.


mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

said by Guspaz See Profile :

I was referring to the 1.5mbit DSL he was promised. Which at $30 isn't the worst deal in the world, and is still a big improvement over dialup.
That's still pretty bad.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Yeah, and so is 56k. 1.5mbit is still about 25x faster than dialup, not to mention the lower latencies.

It still sucks speed-wise, but it may still be a better alternative.

If he were rich, he could also always bond four of them to get a 6meg connection :P

munky99999
Munky

join:2004-04-10
canada
clubs:

reply to Munky1337
1.5mbit is the dsl I have now.

I was thinking maybe that a different technology such as broadband over power would give me better access to the dslam and perhaps give me better throughput.

adsl2, rdslam i guess is pretty much my only other possibility.

Also I'm not in rural. I'm in the middle of the friggen city. I'm hooked up at the demarc... my central office-dslam is just really far.

Just goes to show how poorly bell has really developed the area.


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
reply to Munky1337
BPL (Broadband over PowerLines) is a technological nonsense. If there was any chance of it working, we'd have had radio and television over power lines long ago!

pstewart
Premium,VIP
join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON

said by sbrook See Profile :

BPL (Broadband over PowerLines) is a technological nonsense. If there was any chance of it working, we'd have had radio and television over power lines long ago!
It actually worked pretty good - there is still some small deployments active around Ontario. It was plagued with various challenges though and rather complex/expensive to deploy (depending on where etc).

The residential version in your house (to avoid running cat5 or using wireless) works really good - I have it throughout my house, rock solid. But that's a different type of gear all together..;)
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