Ap4mvp
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join:2001-01-18
Chesterfield, MO
| Quick question..
Hi, I'm thinking of switching back to Uverse soon.. My old apartment was 1 bedroom so I had cat5 ran.. Now I have a 3 bedroom apartment and don't want cat5 ran.. Is it possible to setup Uverse without Cat5 running everywhere..
I have 3 phone jacks in each of the 3 rooms I want cable.. If that helps any..
Thoughts?
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gdm
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join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Honestly it will depend on the apartment setup. I don't see why the bulk wiring couldn't be coax. It will depend on what type of coax and condition. |
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Ap4mvp
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Chesterfield, MO | reply to Ap4mvp
What do you mean by bulk wiring? |
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gdm
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Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Basically the majority of your wiring. Typically they like to use cat3/5e/6 to the RG itself. From the RG to TV's depends on the coax cabling. For desktops I would still use a network cable vs. wireless. |
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TheDuck
join:2003-06-22
Eastlake, OH
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You need either cat5 or coax run from the RG to each STB. The jacks you have are probably daisy chained so could not be used even if they are cat5. If they are cat5 and all outlets run to a central location they could possibly be converted. If coax is already there they can be used. |
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ILpt4U
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Lisle, IL
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| Misinformation.
IF all 3 TVs are by phone jacks in an apt, the HPNA signal that usually travels on Coax in a U-Verse job can just as easily travel over 1 pair of Phone Line -- even Line-Shared with Dial Tone if necessary.
So if you have phone jacks near where you want TVs, then they can be ran HPNA over Phone Line. However, many techs are not comfortable with that setup. I have a STB/TV running on HPNA over Phone Line to my kitchen phone jack in my apt, so I can have a kitchen TV. It works great.
However, you will still need a jumper between the Phone Jack and the TV. It can either be Cat 5 or Coax. Cat 5 jumper means the HPNA balun will be right on the back of the STB. Coax Jumper means the Cat 5 Balun has to be close to the phone jack. |
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schja01
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Morton Grove, IL
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| said by ILpt4U  :the HPNA signal that usually travels on Coax in a U-Verse job can just as easily travel over 1 pair of Phone Line -- even Line-Shared with Dial Tone if necessary. Interesting. Sharing with Dial Tone, does the UV signal go all the way back to the CO or is there a filter installed to block that? |
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ILpt4U
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| If it is shared with POTS, it won't get past the VDSL splitter/filter.
If it is shared with VoIP. it is not connected up to the pair leaving the NID back anyway.
If I do this setup, I much prefer to dedicate a pair to HPNA use exclusively. But it can line-share w/ Dial Tone if necessary. |
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schja01
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| said by ILpt4U :If it is shared with POTS, it won't get past the VDSL splitter/filter. Well thank you, up until this very moment I thought UVerse came in on a separate pair. I just went out to the NID and checked. So you are telling me UVerse is like LineShare DSL on Steroids? Only one pair for POTS and UVerse? |
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ILpt4U
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| said by schja01 :Well thank you, up until this very moment I thought UVerse came in on a separate pair. I just went out to the NID and checked. So you are telling me UVerse is like LineShare DSL on Steroids? Only one pair for POTS and UVerse? U-Verse is VDSL, which is kinda like ADSL on Steroids, sure...
POTS and U-Verse VDSL usually come to the house on the same pair. Occasionally though POTS will be provisioned on a single pair, and the VDSL conditioned pair will be a different pair -- in which case they come in on 2 different pairs. |
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schja01
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Morton Grove, IL
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| said by ILpt4U :said by schja01 :Well thank you, up until this very moment I thought UVerse came in on a separate pair. I just went out to the NID and checked. So you are telling me UVerse is like LineShare DSL on Steroids? Only one pair for POTS and UVerse? U-Verse is VDSL, which is kinda like ADSL on Steroids, sure... POTS and U-Verse VDSL usually come to the house on the same pair. Occasionally though POTS will be provisioned on a single pair, and the VDSL conditioned pair will be a different pair -- in which case they come in on 2 different pairs. Thanks (again) for clarifying things. I have two POTS lines and UVerse. I have two pair providing those services. One pair POTS only and the other POTS and UVerse combined. I originally saw three pair in the NID and only now realized the 3rd pair is my old Northpoint SDSL (long since dead) pair. |
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Ap4mvp
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Chesterfield, MO
| reply to Ap4mvp
Just got it all installed and it works fine.. He was able to use existing Coax in the apartment so no cat5 was needed 
YAY!
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