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| said by Shamayim :Who pays for these JD Powers studies? JD Powers is like the Better Business Bureau. Companies pay them to promote the feel good/warm fuzzies about them. These studies are nothing but talking points written by the PR/Marking departments of the corporations looking to disseminate pure myth about themselves. | |
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| Re: JD Powers said by SilverSurfer :said by Shamayim :Who pays for these JD Powers studies? JD Powers is like the Better Business Bureau. Companies pay them to promote the feel good/warm fuzzies about them. These studies are nothing but talking points written by the PR/Marking departments of the corporations looking to disseminate pure myth about themselves. You are making this up and pulling it out of your ass. The most minimal scan of the reference I gave shows you that they conduct actual surveys and report the results. | |
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| Re: JD Powers said by Dogfather :J.D. Power pays for the studies themselves in advance and the data is collected from consumers in the market place via fairly lengthy surveys I simply don't believe that hype. JD Powers is the kind outfit who are just the same as the folks the ISPs pay to conduct studies on BB penetration in the U.S. and we all know how accurate those studies are, don't we. | |
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1 edit | Re: JD Powers said by Dogfather :J.D. Power isn't an astroturf outfit. Based on what evidence to the contrary of? The fact that every time you buy a vehicle you complete one of their surveys? Big deal. If you've ever gone randomly clicking tither & yon on the Internet, you'd find an infinite supply of "consumer surveys" just like J.D. Powers uses. BTW - surveys in and of themselves yield the result their sponsors want. Most "consumer" questions are typically in the following format:
How much do you like your Nexus?
A. A lot B. A real lot C. A real real lot D. If it had a vagina, I'd hit it.
Notice how the wording of the question guarantees a favorable response for the product.
J.D. Powers is nothing but a reacharound to the companies that pay for their services to promote the warm fuzzies about their products. Realistically speaking, these surveys don't mean squat. | |
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 MyDogHsFleas Premium join:2007-08-15 Austin, TX | They must all be stupid because, obviously, Verizon's FIOS and FTTH strategy is vastly superior to AT&T's weak, timid FTTP strategy.
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| Re: They must all be stupid said by Eat Me :What JD Powers is saying in a roundabout way is that ATT U-Verse has more market share than VZ FiOS. No not at all. I have no idea how you concluded that.
They are saying that U-verse customers are more satisfied than FIOS customers, in three out of four regions. | |
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| Re: They must all be stupid AT&T U-Verse and Verizon FiOS only compete directly in two of the four regions in this survey. In every region that AT&T is in, they won (beating Verizon in every region where they compete directly). The only market AT&T U-Verse is not in is the East region, and that is the only region where Verizon took first place.
If you look at the raw scores, in all three regions where AT&T won, they had higher scores than Verizon had in the region in which it won. So most likely AT&T would have had a clean sweep if they were in all four regions. | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: They must all be stupid Well of course Verizon's going to take a hit due to the whole billing thing- and deservedly so. at&t doesn't seem to have nearly the billing problems that Verizon does. | |
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FIOS is heavy in the northeast, Florida, California, and Texas. They are also in Seattle, Portland, Chicago, and parts of Ohio. | |
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| Re: They must all be stupid said by MyDogHsFleas :see here: » /gmaps/fios?typ=sFIOS is heavy in the northeast, Florida, California, and Texas. They are also in Seattle, Portland, Chicago, and parts of Ohio. FIOS is only available in the Tampa area of Florida. Hardly what I'd call heavy:( | |
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| said by MyDogHsFleas :see here: » /gmaps/fios?typ=sFIOS is heavy in the northeast, Florida, California, and Texas. They are also in Seattle, Portland, Chicago, and parts of Ohio. FiOS TV is NOT in Chicago or parts of Ohio. Here are all their channel lists:
»www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv···neup.htm
Go over to the right and scroll down a bit, and you'll see all the areas covered by FiOS TV. Note that FiOS INTERNET exists in some areas that do not currently have TV, but I really don't think that includes Chicago or Ohio. | |
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| Re: They must all be stupid said by JPL :said by MyDogHsFleas :see here: » /gmaps/fios?typ=sFIOS is heavy in the northeast, Florida, California, and Texas. They are also in Seattle, Portland, Chicago, and parts of Ohio. FiOS TV is NOT in Chicago or parts of Ohio. Here are all their channel lists: » www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv···neup.htmGo over to the right and scroll down a bit, and you'll see all the areas covered by FiOS TV. Note that FiOS INTERNET exists in some areas that do not currently have TV, but I really don't think that includes Chicago or Ohio. so what is up with the markers on the map that I linked to? | |
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| Re: They must all be stupid said by MyDogHsFleas :said by JPL :said by MyDogHsFleas :see here: » /gmaps/fios?typ=sFIOS is heavy in the northeast, Florida, California, and Texas. They are also in Seattle, Portland, Chicago, and parts of Ohio. FiOS TV is NOT in Chicago or parts of Ohio. Here are all their channel lists: » www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv···neup.htmGo over to the right and scroll down a bit, and you'll see all the areas covered by FiOS TV. Note that FiOS INTERNET exists in some areas that do not currently have TV, but I really don't think that includes Chicago or Ohio. so what is up with the markers on the map that I linked to? That's a site where people put in that they have FiOS to let others know about it. Not sure who put in that they have it in Chicago, but they don't. Here's a disclaimer from the site you posted:
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Hmm... not sure how it was listed as best for price AT&T IPTV is not cheap. Even bundled deals make it comparable to TWC (here in SoCal) at best, and that is only in areas that have Uverse Voice (still not in the Los Angeles area). -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| Re: Hmm... not sure how it was listed as best for price Best is qualitative. Price is quantitative. Both go into the evaluation of "best for the price". TWC may even be cheaper but if people hate the customer service or the product it'll naturally be rated lower, as it should be. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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2 edits | AT&T U-verse ranks highest in customer satisfaction AT&T U-verse rocks! They just installed my service here in Central Texas and the picture quality, features and customer service is second to none. It's no surprised that their ranking is high. Their product technology may be new and a little quirky but its not hard to see that this service has tremendous potential. I have had Time Warner and DirecTV for a number of years in different locations and although their services were nice, they are not on the same level as U-verse. Time Warner has had a monopoly over the wired services for a number of years and acted as I would expect them to given that they have the upper hand. Competition is finally here and I hope AT&T sticks it to Time Warner financially for all those years of unfriendly pricing, no customer service and lack of features. Time Warner DVR absolutely blows chucks and it has not had a decent software update in a long time. Hopefully, we can get a third wired competitor in my area in the next few years. I thought Grande Communications was going to expand but I suspect Time Warner beat them down over the past half decade until they decided that they could not gain a solid foot hold in most neighborhoods here in central Texas. | |
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| Re: AT&T U-verse ranks highest in customer satisfaction Despite the lawn fridges, I'd have to say AT&T U-Verse looks very good from what I saw. Now I only saw video's on YouTube and screen shots, but that Multi-Room DVR and really slick user interface along with a very respectable channel lineup make it a serious contender. Verizon's user interface is pretty good, but not as slick and quick as AT&T's. The cable companies invest no money and very little time (were talking 20 months between MINOR updates) in their user interfaces.
Whoever has the nicest 'face' and easy to use, full featured product will undoubtedly have an advantage to begin with. I don't hear too many complaints about AT&T U-Verse billing vs. Fios Billing, so it makes sense that JD Powers rated them in the order that they did. | |
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| CABLE TV I did'nt have to much trouble with Time Warner's tv service, I just could'nt stand thier endless commercials. It's like they are trying to brainwash you with ad after ad. All they do is bash every other service provider(satellite and Verizon), so I went to Directv but kept TWC for Roadrunner. | |
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